Topic: No Roswell UFO crash

[xpmark12]

It is just not credible that a space craft crashed near a U.S.city in 1947 and a decision was made to ignore it by Harry S.Truman.The U.S. had just come out of a bloody war and was armed to the teeth.The fact of a downed space craft shows it could be vulnerable to our weapons.Harry Truman and the people of that time were tougher than we are now, and would not roll over without a fight.A state of high military alert would have gone out around the world.It would have been impossible to keep quiet.

[EvB]

What you say makes sense - except for the "people of that time were tougher than we are now" part.  I know that's true in many ways - but they were also easily manipulated into acting on fear.  We still are manipulated - but it's takes a little more finesse I think.

Remember that Mcarthy started the whole "Black List" and "Red Scare" BS shortly after this. 

?Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party??

And people bit - DESPITE the fact that there is no reason that an American, under our constitution, should not be a communist if they so choose.

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[RecoveringNoorholic]

Hmmm ... I've been thinking about this in the last couple days, actually. If I worked in public relations - which I do - and a news event happens to my company or organization from which I want to distract attention, I hope for an even larger news event. Of course, private companies are simply left to hoping. The Government is able to generate interest in "terminal" topics; those topics that trump all others. But, General Motors can't distract from its  bankruptcy by announcing GM is declaring war on Nigeria.

At the point the Roswell event occurred the media were still completely consumed by the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting over Mt. Rainier, Wash., the co-occurring aerial phenomenon over Murray Island, Wash. and the mysterious crash of the B-25 returning to Hamilton AF loaded with debris from the Murray Island incident.

The AAC announces they've captured a UFO in Roswell, all media attention turns to this bigger story - hours later they announce it's a downed weather balloon and the rash of public attention moves on, never returning to focus on Mt. Rainier and Murray Island at even a fraction of the level it had been at just a few days prior ... I think Roswell was a well-played red herring.

[RecoveringNoorholic]

Remember that Mcarthy started the whole "Black List" and "Red Scare" BS shortly after this.

“Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?”

And people bit - DESPITE the fact that there is no reason that an American, under our constitution, should not be a communist if they so choose.

I would agree at levels ... however, being a Communist in the '50's was viewed with the same trepidation to being a member of Al Qaeda today - perhaps more ... communists controlled large, regular armies with tanks, artillery, jet aircraft, etc. - not rag tag guerilla groups. If a US Senator were exposing members of Al Qaeda embedded in the Defense Department I think people today would react just as poorly as they did in the 50s. (And we know now McCarthy was at least partially justified in concern, though perhaps not tactics, since the opening of the USSR state archives showed that the CPUSA had been operating under the directions of the Soviet embassy for most the whole Cold War.)

Extremely off-topic trivia - did you know the US Communist Party just had their disclosure exemption renewed for an additional 5-year term in November '08? They've enjoyed a court-ordered blanket exemption from complying with federal campaign finance disclosure requirements since 1982.

[EvB]

hmmm . . . interesting.

[Loui Zoot]

Walter Haut had an affidavit released after his death claiming it was a cover, that the first report was a cover because too many people knew about it already. So they did they to divert people from the real or better site. It's been a couple years since I talked to him about it, but I know someone who was there when he taped it, he says the tape is real. Obviously he can't confirm if the information is true as he wasn't quite born in 1947.

That person's name is Clifford E. Stone, and he lives here in Roswell, as well. He gives lectures every year at the local festival. He (Stone) also claims to have been involved in Project Moondust and Operation Blue Fly, a member of a secret team that recovered stuff that fell from space.

There are many results for Walter Haut Affidavit on google.

While I can't prove to you that any of this is true, nor would I try. Over the years I have gotten many hundreds of sightings of sighting reports, and some abductions stories as well. Personally I think there is something to all of those UFO sightings, I don't pretend to have the answers though. UFO doesn't have to mean Alien Piloted Spaceship.

I've read some pretty intriguing stories from credible enough sounding people.


That's just my take, and I wouldn't force that opinion on others.

[nika01]

It is just not credible that a space craft crashed near a U.S.city in 1947 and a decision was made to ignore it by Harry S.Truman.The U.S. had just come out of a bloody war and was armed to the teeth.The fact of a downed space craft shows it could be vulnerable to our weapons.Harry Truman and the people of that time were tougher than we are now, and would not roll over without a fight.A state of high military alert would have gone out around the world.It would have been impossible to keep quiet.

Sorry to be blunt, but this is an ill conceived post. It is a proclamation and it is not based on anything but personal opinion. I suggest you read Stanton Friedman's latest book to get an idea of things that have been kept secret that are known today without question.

This is, of course, my opinion.