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Michael Jackson is dead
« on: June 25, 2009, 06:28:29 PM »
fuckin Michael Jackson died at 3:15 pacific today! (corrected time 2:26 pm)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html

sales gonna go thru the stratosphere now


Pirate King Atomsk

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 06:42:13 PM »
Update: There will be cookies, cake, and teacup rides at the funeral.

Aaaand now that I got that out of me...Man, this is such a downer.. Poor guy, imo...maybe this is just me, but does anyone else here believe that he truly was innocent of child molestation? I know I'm probably sticking my arm in the bear trap by saying that, but I really have a hard time believing that he would do something like that. My personal assessment is that he's weird as fuck, sure...but he doesn't seem to have a vicious (or sexual) bone in his body. =/

Edit: change "doesn't" to "didn't"....man, this is gonna take some getting used to.

Borr

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 06:43:14 PM »
Once again, Jacko has taken his one-upmanship with Fara Fawcett a step too far.

Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 07:16:02 PM »
excellent point Borr  ;D

Michael Vandeven

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 01:19:35 AM »
Update: There will be cookies, cake, and teacup rides at the funeral.

Aaaand now that I got that out of me...Man, this is such a downer.. Poor guy, imo...maybe this is just me, but does anyone else here believe that he truly was innocent of child molestation? I know I'm probably sticking my arm in the bear trap by saying that, but I really have a hard time believing that he would do something like that. My personal assessment is that he's weird as fuck, sure...but he doesn't seem to have a vicious (or sexual) bone in his body. =/

Edit: change "doesn't" to "didn't"....man, this is gonna take some getting used to.
i don't know what happened in jackson's home with the exception of his admitting during a televised interview that he (a forty-something year old man) allows young boys to sleep in his bed with him, calling it "natural." 

that sealed the deal for me.

PhantasticSanShiSan

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 02:02:09 AM »
If Macauly Culkin comes out now and says MJ molested him, then I'll believe it.  As it is, to me the accusers are no different then the million of chicks who try and claim athletes and celebrities are the father of their children.  It's a cash grab, and the ultimate set-up for it.  I'm sure we'll find out soon enough if there is any evidence.  The feds and cops are going through that mansion with a fine-tooth as we speak.

valdez

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009, 06:03:36 AM »
...I watched some of that early Jackson 5 stuff this morning.   Great.  The eighties stuff I don't know about (I spent it listening to R.E.M. and E. Costello).  The Circus Freakshow part of his career was interesting, but ultimately distracting to what might have been some good music.

Pirate King Atomsk

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 10:50:31 AM »
If Macauly Culkin comes out now and says MJ molested him, then I'll believe it.  As it is, to me the accusers are no different then the million of chicks who try and claim athletes and celebrities are the father of their children.  It's a cash grab, and the ultimate set-up for it.

My feelings exactly.

i don't know what happened in jackson's home with the exception of his admitting during a televised interview that he (a forty-something year old man) allows young boys to sleep in his bed with him, calling it "natural." 

that sealed the deal for me.

See the reason it didn't seal the deal for me was because if you really take a look at Jackson's child/teen life, and the things women say about him and his reactions to 'sexual" advances...it all just doesn't add up. I know it sounds incredibly freaky to consider that a man could actually sleep in a bed with children and it be platonic, but don't fathers do it all the time? The only reason that it was inherently so weird is frankly because it was Michael Jackson IMO. If, say, Denzel Washington said "yes, I sleep in bed with children sometimes" I doubt it would be immediately taken as a sick sexual thing.

Like I said, I'm sticking my hand in the proverbial bear trap over this one, but I really believe he was innocent. Weird, yes, freaky, yes.. but a perverted bisexual pedophile? I'm not so quick to jump on that one as Jay Leno was. 

Ruteger

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 11:29:53 AM »
What's the bad news? ;:)

EvB

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009, 12:33:01 PM »
PKA & Borr have expressed my feelings on this so far.  The guy was obviously tormented and S-T-R-A-N-G-E he was also enormously talented.

As for letting young boys sleep in his bed - well - yes - my first reaction is "WTF!???"  But think of Lewis Carroll.  He liked little girls - took lovely (artistic) nude photos of them, drew them, painted them, and enjoyed their company.  (one of his most famous pieces - the girl who was the inspiration for the "Alice" illustration though NOT the same girl who was the inspiration for the STORY - is below) Some say he preferred it to the company of adults. Yet, most sources say that that nude art photos of pre-pubescent girls were not unheard of at the time - that mothers trusted him - and no one ever suggested that anything sexual went on. 

IOW - who knows?

I only hope his kids are done right by.


Michael Vandeven

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 10:48:09 AM »

Frys Girl

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 11:52:19 AM »
He was extremely talented and we will never know the truth about what his father's abuse caused him to feel, but I think it's easy to judge.

In 2005, while he was in court, a psychiatrist testified that his development was arrested at 10 years of age. This must have been so hurtful, no matter if it is true. I love his music and I think he was definitely the "king of pop". His reach was cross religious/ethnic/racial/sexual. Very rare.

The Philosopher

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 11:54:35 AM »
He was extremely talented and we will never know the truth about what his father's abuse caused him to feel, but I think it's easy to judge.

In 2005, while he was in court, a psychiatrist testified that his development was arrested at 10 years of age. This must have been so hurtful, no matter if it is true. I love his music and I think he was definitely the "king of pop". His reach was cross religious/ethnic/racial/sexual. Very rare.


Very true. ;D

Borr

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 11:17:10 PM »
I think this just about sums it up.

http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uuafsNQLd

Borr

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Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 11:32:37 PM »
Highly offensive and insensitive and very NSFW...so click immediately

Michael Jackson is Dead, by Jon LaJoie

EvB

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2009, 11:03:10 AM »
Know what? I wasn't even a little bit offended.  I thought it was a brilliant indictment of he media.

THANKS!

Michael Vandeven

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 03:08:00 AM »
Highly offensive and insensitive and very NSFW...so click immediately

Michael Jackson is Dead, by Jon LaJoie

my thoughts exactly.

Re: Michael Jackson is dead
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2009, 09:38:19 AM »
damn frys girl, the voice of reason! good points. anyhow here is another NSFW MJ bashing song from 2005
http://72.233.123.154/~gein/_hid/hearings/necro_and_mr._hyde_ft._michael_jackson-billie_jean_2005-drx.mp3