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Re: your Thread on myself, styled "Christian von Lahr, Msc.D. and Michael Jackson? on a/your? coastgab.com FORUM.
First, let me thank you for visiting the Coast to Coast AM broadcast venue as it has the unique stature of deliberately reaching out to both Americans and foreigners to solicit those [actual] views of their guests, those which are askew or counter to the rigid, dogmatic, straight-laced doctrine of general world perspectives. I would include Ian Punnett and Art Bell as accomplished hosts, in addition to George Noory, however.
Thus, I commend you and acknowledge that your [active] participation might/must suggest that you see both logic and wisdom in having an open mind to not only everyone?s personal views, but [their] personal experiences and developed philosophies, ? those which come from [individuals] expressing their ?truth.?
Further, and perhaps more to your credit, you have and are through your continued demonstrative audio/visual participation acknowledging that ?truth,? is a relative thing; such that, there must NOT, therefore, be just ONE position on matters, nor one ?Right or Wrong,? or one correct view, one good religion, one valid race of man, or even one genuine and absolute spiritual belief ─ and certainly not only [your] view point(s) and belief system.
Thus, your having the aforementioned intelligent approach to non-judgmental awareness and participation, you would not be wont to assertive, egotistic, narcissistic pre- judgment ? right? Of course not, no one wants to be saying, ?I?m a chauvinistic, racist, fundamentalist diehard, radical while their presenting an OPEN CALL for world opinions.
Since that aforementioned ?personal truth,? belief system, set of experiences or philosophy represents a desire to find ONE?S actual resonance with this space, time, dimension, universe and/or [ideation] within which we dwell ?. then one must similarly acknowledge that YOU TOO draw from your [personal] breadth of knowledge, awareness, experience, and intuition. Ergo, if others cannot have their right to expression, then you too would deserve no recognition, ...your voice would have to be squelched, and burned in effigy. ... Perhaps besmurched on some obsucre Forum, like adolescent grafitti under an overpass.
Therefore, all appropriate credit given, one would have to presume that you, being such a fair, honest and non-judgmental person as postured by the righteousness of your posting style, would be willing to ALLOW another their right to full and complete exploration of truth, life and existence WITHOUT [overshadowing] it with your own; since, that would then re-categorize you.
That said, perhaps I can address your Thread?s question directly, as after-all, I am its indirect, if not direct focus.>>>I logged on to see what C2C listeners thought about this Christian von Lahr "channeling" Michael Jackson.
That you logged on to avail yourself of the opinions of other Coast to Coast AM listeners is commendable, as already suggested in the prefacing paragraphs. Of course, if you are seeking awareness and not simply validation of your own ego, as I am sure you are not, then you would be inquiring elsewhere and everywhere, where there is no SET bias.
It would be such a base and egocentric position to simply seek agreement on your own opinion, when that topic of reference, when counter to your own, serves only to self-gratify. Preaching to a narrow-minded, prejudiced choir such as one would find in a tightly focused forum, may too imply adolescent discrimination. Since we have established such is NOT the case, then we can presume you have availed yourself to a [world-view] and not a thug-consensus. I wish you well on your endeavor for you will surely hear a heart-felt earful that will last a lifetime, and gain actual enlightenment in the process.
That I or anyone can "Channel," is neither freakish, miraculous nor non-sensical. If you have any [acutal] belief in a spiritual existence, then such thigs would HAVE to be a possibility in it; such abilities would be a matter of developed proficiency, by the way, nothing "special." What WAS special about the matter, actually, was more that Mr. Jackson chose me to perform the service --- he would certainly have had his choice from among many in the world. And, his choice was likely a logical one as people who represent him (his "Handlers" as they call themselves) approached someone who happend to be MY client, thus bringing me into the circle --- therefore, it was a choice due to circumstance. What WAS performed, a channeling, fits within all reason, fundamentals and historically proven abilities of Man (in general,) but more especialy for those who [actually] work at the proficiency. "Channeling" is most simply stated an "influence" from a consciousness source relatively higher than where we functionally reside. We ALL are receiving influece constantly, and react to it to greater or lessor degrees. SOME people develop their proficiency to be more discerning of the finer frequencies of consciousness about us, much like a very good radio could lock on to a channel of music that a cheaper apparatus might squelch due to lack of precision.
>>>> I went to von Lahr's website and it's full of the usual appalling dreck.
WHAT?S THIS??? Perhaps I spoke too soon? ?Appalling?? How arrogant must one be to not realize that in the greater body of the world, MOST would find the material on my website sensible, second-nature and [base] or ?core? belief. I?m sure I didn?t miss anything, did I? This domain isn?t actually some fundamentalist, racist, E-rag, is it? Surely not, perhaps you didn?t think before you spoke.
MOST of the world has embraced {Archangels, Dhyani-chohen or Elohim}, and the angels that serve them, and the Nature Spirits (nature people) who serve under them to bring ?FORM? or physical objectivity to the spiritual essence from which all ensue, to be A COMMON-KNOWLEDGE SPIRITUAL FUNDAMENETAL. If you chose to chastise, then we must assume you have a basis, a right, to your opinion. you have offered nothing to refute the historical and artifactual evidence from which I draw.
Since actual historical philosophical ?spirituality,? which is the basis for my materials recognizes the ?fundamentals? of broadest basis of spirituality itself, and is therefore from 2,to 4 to 20 times older than Christianity, it is wholly ignorant of anyone to condemn the wisdom of the ages, and the underpinnings of every religion (at their time of inception). The evidence of these general tenets are everywhere in the world for eons and eons. If you don?t get out much, find yourself a couple thousand books and read them, you will find I am right (although, I do not NEED to be.)
If you chose to remain totally uninformed, slapdash of knowledge, wisdom and reason from Step-1 till NOW, of who ?we? are, how we got here, the reasons for existence, the purpose of life, the proof of Divinity (in whatever form resonates with one or another) and the ways and means of the divine ideation, then please take hold of your own assessment; ?appalling.?
Condemnation of another, of others simply because one (consider this may be you) is ignorant of the world and its learned and vast belief system, would indeed, be appalling. If you think the rest of the world has a rigid view and basis for spiritual belief as remiss as yours, you have deluded yourself. Your course of thinking is precisely what leads to war(s). Behind all spiritual beliefs, way back in the beginning, they were far more the same, than different. ?Special? people with big egos, private agendas, and the thirst for power tweeked, changed, altered and outright adulterated the world?s foundational beliefs. If you are following the RESULT as your ?truth,? and would impose it on others and the world, then you are behind the times.
PS: "Dreck?" Is this baby-talk, or something? <rolls eyes>
>>>> Any thoughts? Or did most of you have better things to do last night than listening to this schmuck?
Obviously, you did not. Perhaps this was/is a blessing in disguise. This schmuck may just have the rationale behind existence and our place in it that you are secretly yearning to know; behind your mock tears of admonition is a fire that calls out for the kindling of wisdom, so it [you] can burn brighter. This is not a time to be praying for rain. You would clearly have an unfathomable amount of homework to do in life, because you think it to be relative to your physical surroundings. Now see, to the greater world, I would not be the schmuck. Such ignorance to levels and realms of life condemns you by your own choice.
Nothing in this world, no one, and certainly NOT YOU can have any ?meaning? if you want to hold out that existence is some freakish 15,000,000,000 year old anomaly that produced YOU in a flash, and would THEREFORE HAVE TO extinguish itself in kind, since there is no intelligence behind life and consciousness. What I speak to, study upon for four decades, share for nearly as many and demonstrate as best I can to help others, those who have [common sense], is a sacrificial act; YOU prove the sacrifice.
You are here by ?intent,? there is a reason behind your existence, you are meant to be something, do something and to make a difference, and this serves some higher, spiritual purpose that gives credence to the intellectual design of the Universe, and everlasting life. You can call myself and others a schmuck all day long, but that would not make it so. HAVING your belief, however, makes it true regardless; but why condemn the shadow of ignorance when it is that man himself who is the more remiss. You must learn precisely what is meant by "one's Light," so you can learn to shine and brighten, and not fliker and condemn to shadows.
What I have communicated is [my take] based on decades of learning, experiencing, lecturing and proving the tenets behind spirituality. It turns out, the world DID get it right. Albiet, and obviously, many of those current are oblivious to the learned wisdom of the ages. Give yourself a break and instead of condemning others because your are ignorant, ? read, study, and prove whatever it is you want to believe in.
If you CAN?T do ALL OF THESE then you have no belief system whatsoever, you have merely adopted a convenient one and put NO effort into understanding it. You can be a crystal-clear, yet brainless dud by condemning others for TAKING THE RISK to present a well-thought out belief system, or facets thereof, but then your 15 billion year accident will end up a tragedy as well; you will have been a total waste. DON?T CONDEMN, argue with valid and substantial rhetoric.
You need to find a reason to HAVE your beliefs. You can?t and haven?t substantiated your opposition with even a syllable of rationale. Do you think you are being intelligent with your position?
>>>>This was the last Saturday late night for me and Ian. I just can't take any more!
It takes only a tiny bit more than simple common sense to conclude that YOU WANT to understand and believe these higher concepts. Like so very many of your league, you will condemn, condemn, condemn until you finally get someone to spoon-feed you some wisdom. It is NOT the obligation of the world to stoop down to baby-sit you. Put some effort into your life. Read, from all areas and all walks of life, all philosophies, all sources of wisdom and establish a BASIS for what you believe. Get some actual experience in life of these matters that consume your late Saturday nights. Open your mind, and you may as well open your potential. You should NOT be reaching the opinion that everyone else is wrong. That merely conveys that you are wrong. You should , instead, be showing the variances you find to other opinions, such that the insight distinguishes you as having reached ?learned? positions.
Those George Noory?s, Ian Punnetts and Art Bells of the world are doing a service that you could NEVER accomplish. They set their egos aside to bring YOUR (yours, mine and ours, ? everyone?s) to the world for consideration. THEY are the big people. You can turn your back, you can condemn, you can NOT listen, but you are actually, in so doing, saying you do not want to listen to any position, any knowledge, any wisdom but your own.
What happened? You started out with this righteous position that might have conveyed fairness and justice. But, then you left the virtuous path and journeyed down a tight vortex into that small space of your own mind, and turned your back on the very opportunity you were seeking from a show like Coast to Coast. WAKE UP. The programs are NOT to convince you of anything. They are to convey IT?S OK to think, rationalize, experience and express your ?truth.? If you want to be recognized as being [something] then you are going to have to become a bigger person and allow these hosts who risk all the insults and denunciation of the many, just for the privilege of giving your EXACTLY what you want ─ a chance to find your enlightenment, and to be able to express it. They put their fates where their heart is by having guests on, like myself, who have something to say, BECAUSE, they do.
If you can?t wake up and smell the coffee, then at least be polite and pass the sugar.
Dr. Christian von L?hr, Msc.D.
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