Topic: the oil spill...

[valdez]

     It was disturbing to hear that Coast Guard Commandante' guy say that the US Government was not capable of handling the spill, so it's all up to BP.  Incredible.  I'm not really one of those corny patriot types, but I thought this country could do just about anything.  Yeah, I know, it's really deep, and the water is very cold.  Right.  Somebody had better get their ass in gear.

[Marc Knight]

     It was disturbing to hear that Coast Guard Commandante' guy say that the US Government was not capable of handling the spill, so it's all up to BP.  Incredible.  I'm not really one of those corny patriot types, but I thought this country could do just about anything.  Yeah, I know, it's really deep, and the water is very cold.  Right.  Somebody had better get their ass in gear.

Under Obama we have to rely on the Russians to go to space; the Chinese to fund our government; the Mexicans for cheap labor; and now a foreign corporation to ham-handedly attempt to stop the biggest environmental disaster ever in the USA.  Our effective stance as a pre-eminent nation among nations has at best been neutered, and at worst, feminized.

[Michael Vandeven]

i think the whole situation is indicative of the fact that generally, government can not be counted on.  people are continually having to be reminded of this fact, whether it's katrina or an oil spill doing the reminding. 

[valdez]

     ...Operation "Top Kill" implemented.  Very dramatic name.  We shall see if this works.  That video feed from the site is kind of cool in a bizarre sort of way. 

[valdez]

     Top Kill fails.  Sending in the Robots.  Yes!

[Michael Vandeven]

kinda funny how on thursday (i think that was thursday), obama came out and gave a press conference about the oil spill in which he felt the need to assert that he does, in fact, care about the oil spill.  apparently there was some doubt. 


also, at the time of that press conference, it appeared that the "top kill" plan was likely to work, so obama hedged his bets and took credit for what he thought was imminent success, as if he had personally devised and executed the plan.  he even capped off the presser by saying his daughter poked her head in the bathroom while he was shaving and asked, "daddy, did YOU plug the oil leak yet?"  that was not an accidental use of the word "you," and it's no accident that the conference finished with this lovely image for all of us to envision for ourselves. 


this guy is unreal, and i pity those of you who were fooled by his marketing campaign in 2008. 


i personally don't give a shit to hear about how much he cares if he's not going to give gulf coast governors permission to do what they need to do to preserve their shore lines.  this is turning into a state's rights issue, which i'm sure is a foreign concept to most of you obama fans out there.  i'm beginning to think governor jindal's island barrier plan is being ignored by obama and co. because the administration wants to maximize the amount of damage done by this spill so as to give the federal government more power and carte blanche to regulate the oil industry.  this is an opportunity for them... not a crisis.  we are so fucked on multiple levels.

[Marc Knight]

kinda funny how on thursday (i think that was thursday), obama came out and gave a press conference about the oil spill in which he felt the need to assert that he does, in fact, care about the oil spill.  apparently there was some doubt. 


also, at the time of that press conference, it appeared that the "top kill" plan was likely to work, so obama hedged his bets and took credit for what he thought was imminent success, as if he had personally devised and executed the plan.  he even capped off the presser by saying his daughter poked her head in the bathroom while he was shaving and asked, "daddy, did YOU plug the oil leak yet?"  that was not an accidental use of the word "you," and it's no accident that the conference finished with this lovely image for all of us to envision for ourselves. 


this guy is unreal, and i pity those of you who were fooled by his marketing campaign in 2008. 


i personally don't give a shit to hear about how much he cares if he's not going to give gulf coast governors permission to do what they need to do to preserve their shore lines.  this is turning into a state's rights issue, which i'm sure is a foreign concept to most of you obama fans out there.  i'm beginning to think governor jindal's island barrier plan is being ignored by obama and co. because the administration wants to maximize the amount of damage done by this spill so as to give the federal government more power and carte blanche to regulate the oil industry.  this is an opportunity for them... not a crisis.  we are so fucked on multiple levels.

So true. 
 
http://www.reaganlibrary.com/REAGAN-LIBRARY-VIDEO-TOUR.aspx
 
(turn the volume up)

[valdez]

     Practically every talking head is assuming the robot thing will not work.  I understand that we have completely lost faith in ourselves, but when did we lose our faith in robots?
     I'm betting it will work.

[Michael Vandeven]

     Practically every talking head is assuming the robot thing will not work.  I understand that we have completely lost faith in ourselves, but when did we lose our faith in robots?
     I'm betting it will work.

i say we shove the pipe full of post-it notes containing obama's broken promises.  that oughtta do it.

[EvB]

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[Michael Vandeven]

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

this list seems a bit subjective.  for instance:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/125/direct-military-leaders-to-end-war-in-iraq/

[EvB]

this list seems a bit subjective.  for instance:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/125/direct-military-leaders-to-end-war-in-iraq/

No doubt - the problem is it's ALL subjective.  We all love our predilections, our presuppositions, and our predictions way to much to be made wrong over-all in the long-run.  When we do make dramtic changes in life view, that's "conversion" - and we all know how clear and rational the zeal of the convert is.

As for me, well, there is just to damned much "change" around here (achieved or proposed) to keep track of.

[valdez]

    The robots seemed to have succeeded.  60% of the oil gush is being diverted.  Anti-semite and Hamas supporter Helen Thomas is booted from the White Press corps.  Van Der Sloot confesses to murder after what I hope was many hours of good old fashioned Peruvian torture.

[valdez]

Huh?  Can he do that? 

i, and many others, have asked this question since his inauguration.

[valdez]

     After having to put up with a grilling by those two bit hoodlums in congress, BP CEO Tony Hayward isn't allowed some time off with his family?  This is lynch mob mentality, and Rahm Emanuel in the lead. 
 
 
 
 
 

[EvB]

Tony Hayward is a lying sack.  If he was "grilled by hoodlums" he was in good company.

[Michael Vandeven]

valdez, it looks like i accidentally edited one of your posts:
http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,1909.msg25152.html#msg25152

i thought i was making my OWN reply to the quoted text.  i have no idea how that happened.  sorry bout dat.

[valdez]

valdez, it looks like i accidentally edited one of your posts:

     Oh, It was nothing.  Something about the rule of law, and of the impending dictatorship of the left, and of my sick addiction to those little Hershey's Miniatures...And then I wrote of a dream I had, where the solution to the oil spill was made crystal clear, as was the way to peace in the holy land, and of a unified Field theory of everything, and I'll be damned if I can remember any of it.

[999]

The former C2c guest (and Alex Jones fave) Lindsay Williams on the oil spill. I haven't listened to the entire thing....

Lindsey Williams on The Oil Spill catastrophe - Jeffe Rense 11/05/2010

[Michael Vandeven]

     Oh, It was nothing.  Something about the rule of law, and of the impending dictatorship of the left, and of my sick addiction to those little Hershey's Miniatures...And then I wrote of a dream I had, where the solution to the oil spill was made crystal clear, as was the way to peace in the holy land, and of a unified Field theory of everything, and I'll be damned if I can remember any of it.

jesus.  i'm going to have to turn over the keys or something.

[TeddyKGB]

Under Obama we have to rely on the Russians to go to space; the Chinese to fund our government; the Mexicans for cheap labor; and now a foreign corporation to ham-handedly attempt to stop the biggest environmental disaster ever in the USA.  Our effective stance as a pre-eminent nation among nations has at best been neutered, and at worst, feminized.

Yes, it was much different in Bush years.

[Michael Vandeven]

Yes, it was much different in Bush years.

touché.

[valdez]

     There is talk of a storm developing in the Caribbean.  It's called Alex.  I'm thinking it's going to help the situation.  It's just a feeling. 
 

[Michael Vandeven]

     There is talk of a storm developing in the Caribbean.  It's called Alex.  I'm thinking it's going to help the situation.  It's just a feeling. 
 

ooooooh boy.

[puddintame]

I have NOT LOST FAITH that we Americans can do anything we set our minds to doing--if we are allowed to do it and Obongo keeps his uppity snoot out of it.  Grrrr!

[SPARKY]

Under Obama we have to rely on the Russians to go to space; the Chinese to fund our government; the Mexicans for cheap labor; and now a foreign corporation to ham-handedly attempt to stop the biggest environmental disaster ever in the USA.  Our effective stance as a pre-eminent nation among nations has at best been neutered, and at worst, feminized.

Obama has to look like a dufas here, so as to deflect saving the lives of potential problem solvers from all over the world. When that gas bubble cuts loose, all breathing beings will be killed for say 100 miles from the methane burp. This is the worst thing to hit the US in history. This thing could go on for the next 400 years.  PS, the Chinese will give us Electric Cars, not the US...Sparky

[valdez]

     Here is a poll (via Hot Air) concerning whether its time to nuke the oil spill.  I voted yes.  It may be inevitable.
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/05/time-to-nuke-the-gulf-leak/

[valdez]

     Eighty five days after the explosion, the leak is capped.  Fingers crossed.   Long live the robots.

[valdez]

     BP CEO Tony Hayward is transferred to Siberia, where he'll be sharing a room with whoever it was that hired George.