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Offline brugvu

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hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« on: January 27, 2010, 10:21:57 PM »
The thing that is wrong with noory is that he reads off a bunch of prewritten questions, and never continues on with a certain discussion nor does he respond to anything the guest has to say.
Noory doesn;t know how to have an indepth conversation like Art does.
I think all that "working in the light" George did made him not only blind but deaf too.
He also cuts everyone off including callers.
And he is always in a hurry to go right to commercials even in if the guest is in mid sentence.
And for the sake of it I can't figure out why He won;t give Hoagland an entire show. Just 1 hr every month or so is B.S.!!!
Hoagland made the shows not only educational but the most entertaing thing i have ever heard!!!!!!!!
Have you guys heard the "old navy show" back in 97???
what a blast.  All true too.
I got all of the old shows from 97-98, you won;t believe what they won;t let you hear again.. seems like C2C only replays "the worst" shows... i think they don;t want certain information out again...
i mean who cares about open lines from 1995, or "classic" shows of george "the bore" noory
Why don;t they open up the VAULTS and let us hear the best from the 90's? 1 old show a week is f'n nazi-ism.
Come on PREMIER or whoever... I pay good money for "streamlink"
open up the damn vaults and let us hear the Best of Art Bell.
No more NOORY WE BEG OF YOU.
FIRE HIM, AND JUST REPLAY EVERY OLD ART BELL SHOW!!!
starting with 1997, or how about a HOAGLAND MARATHON?
and by the way whoever is running this 24/7 art bell thing... can you play some GOOD ones???
ghost to ghost is OLD, and we all have art's newr shows!!!
play some 97-2000.
and why does is quit playing after an hour? is your network f'ed up or something??
Good idea, but please PLAY some GOOD ART BELL.
Do you want me to send you some? i need 99-2002.. i can trade you my 97-98s..
later..
Ps im new...
If it is ok to trade shows let me know, i have the BIGGEST collection especially 97-98s. all the BEST ONES.
I use hotmail. contact me.
TITLE it  "ART BELL SHOWS"
later,
brugvu

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 04:20:05 AM »
The problem with Noory? . . . is that he is not very smart, full stop.  The light bulb doesn't come on. This is why he needs all the pre-written questions and can't ask follow up questions to engage in an interesting dialogue.  I do like George Knapp, who would have been a good successor to Art Bell. I suspect Knapp has to walk on eggshells given Snoory's insecurities, and I can only imagine what he could do with the show if he was given full reign.

A true shame . . . I don't even listen anymore outside of when the occasional, credible guest shows up, and when Knapp hosts.

Regarding Hoagland, if all his conspiracy theories are true, NASA management has to be the most clever collection of human beings alive on the face of Mother Earth.

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 07:07:35 AM »
it's only a conspiracy to a "skeptic"

Ps... a "skeptic" usually makes rash decisions, without properly researching or understanding the "conspiracy" at hand.
and is more times then not too lazy to do any research.

just my personal opinion.  right Mr. Shermer?

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 08:28:32 PM »
Oh George Noory occasionally goes off the track of the pre-written script questions ... it's just he only does it to throw in some non-sequitor reference to The Twilight Zone. If there's one sure-fire way to cast doubt and disparagement onto topics of the paranormal it's to make yourself look like a sci-fi fanboy.

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 06:51:24 PM »
The things I hate most about George Noory:

His complete lack of understanding when it comes to anything technical.

I think the best recent example of this was when George had a guest (can't remember her name) who was an expert on the Antikythera Mechanism. She was trying to tell him that it would have been impossible for the Antikythera Mechanism to be the only machine of its kind, and like all technological innovations throughout history, it would have been built with the knowledge accrued from a long line of less sophisticated versions.

Of course George did not understand that, and kept insisting -- with absolutely nothing to back up his claim -- that the mechanism was probably unique in history.

Another great example: I was listening to the 2004 "ancient mysteries" interview with Graham Phillips, and Phillips was talking about New Kingdom-era ancient Egypt and pre-classical Greece. All of a sudden, our buddy George interrupts Phillips to ask, "Now the Romans were pretty strong back then too, weren't they?"

WTF WTF WTF WTF?!?!?!

But the thing that drives me absolutely nuts is when he lets callers walk all over him. You know the kinds of callers I'm talking about -- these delusional guys who call up bragging about CIA or military special forces backgrounds, with no real point to the call other than to make themselves seem like Rambo and hint at having some secret knowledge so Noory can make impressed noises.

There was a caller a few months back who was so full of shit and so obviously intent on taking 10 minutes of show time to relate his own invented mythology about himself, that it was just...bad radio. Terrible radio. Like WFAN at 4:30 a.m. when the hosts are so desperate for callers, they'll let a drunk ramble about the Mets for 15 minutes until they fall asleep on the air.

As a listener, I'll tolerate some of the more ridiculous guests (though I can't tolerate the Jose Escamillas and Richard Hoaglands) but I really can't stand listening to guys who paint themselves as some sort of Frank Dux/Steven Seagal hybrids, with their imagined covert CIA operations and their supposed knowledge of mind-blowing government plots, which of course they can't tell us about.

Entertainment can blur the line between fact and fiction, but bullshit is just bullshit.

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 02:46:27 PM »
Agreed. Noori is a complete bore. Can't even make Ed Dames interesting and entertaining like Art could.

However, the Antikythera Mechanism show was hosted by Ian Punnet, intereviewing Jo Marchant, author of Decoding the Heavens.  Anyway, the device actually is something of an anomaly in history. Nothing else even as remotely advanced has ever turned up from the ancient world. So in a way, it is unique. We just don't know what knowledge it was based on.

(Unless I missed the Noory interview.)

« Last Edit: February 15, 2010, 02:56:10 PM by coastfan »

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 04:50:42 PM »
It took me about six months after I first became aware of the show, to "go sour" on Snoory.The show just wasn't that interesting even though I was interested in the topics.It was like Howie Mandell had been cast as the sheriff in a remake of the movie "High Noon".It just didn't work for me.I don't listen to the show if Snoory is hosting...period.It's that painful for me.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 03:43:57 AM »
Long ago - eighteen months ago - when van-city was just a quiet and sleepy lumberjack town, before it became a quiet and sleepy lumberjack town hosting a  folksy rendition of the Olympics, I attended a Noory engagement at some Reno-esque casino there.

During this engagement, in a packed theater, Noory introduced the GM of the local Canadian affiliate who mentioned C2CAM was the only live talk show on in Vancouver during its time slot. Also, each Noory entrance was accompanied by a standing ovation.

Monopoly + Sycophancy = C2C under Noory

(One other thing I noticed, having never seen an assemblage of C2CAM "fans" in one place before, was the demographic:
- 1/3 people who looked like they'd just crawled out of the bayou, which I expected [how they ended up in Canada I have no idea]
- 1/3 senior citizens, which I expected
- 1/3 frat boys, which I didn't expect [I don't mean that to be derisive, I was in a fraternity myself, but you know what I mean] )
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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 03:48:43 PM »
- 1/3 frat boys, which I didn't expect [I don't mean that to be derisive, I was in a fraternity myself, but you know what I mean] )
no offense taken even if derision WAS intended.  actually, i hope there was derision.  i'm pro derision. 
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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 06:49:16 PM »
Noory represents the least common denominator of society as a whole. Therefore, he is perfectly qualified to do the voodoo that he do so well. The Harvard business school weenies that have put him there did it for this reason.


Only the thinking minority have a problem with his indefatigable stupidity, and his superior ability to say the absolute wrong thing, most of the time. What makes it worse is when the RARE phone call gets through that challenges some idiot guest, or Noory himself, one gets a small glimpse into what I believe is anger and arrogance all rolled in to one. Not too much different than Punnet in that respect (however I can listen to and enjoy Punnet most of the time).


I, for one, wish Noory would just shut the hell up and get a job as a greeter at Wally World.  Costco is too good for him.
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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 02:02:07 AM »
Everyone on this site and many others (e.g., The Paracast Forum) complain incessantly about Noory.  And frankly, I agree 100% with all of it.

The real question is how we collectively garbage bin the guy.  I logical replacement, if Noory goes, is Knapp.  We can either sit around on these internet forums and bitch, or we can try to take action.  Any ideas?

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 02:24:47 AM »


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I logical replacement, if Noory goes, is Knapp.

Here is the problem with that:  Knapp has a regular TV gig.  I've no idea if he'd give it up for c2c or not - but - I imagine there are contract issues all around.
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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 06:22:54 AM »
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[the] logical replacement, if Noory goes, is Knapp.
     Knapp has that long introdution (something about nano particles, and supernovas, and slot machines) that drives me nuts.  No way I want to hear that five nights a week.  He is also very much stuck in ufo land.
     I vote for Ian.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 11:24:37 AM »
Whoever the replacement is -- Knapp or otherwise -- will still be better than Noory, in my opinion.  I personally find Punnett boring: I just don't listen to his shows, and his guests don't draw in the listeners.  Nonetheless, Premier has to be able to find someone better than Noory.  Again, any ideas on how the listeners can facilitate a change, absent mass exodus from the program?

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 03:37:12 PM »
Whoever the replacement is -- Knapp or otherwise -- will still be better than Noory, in my opinion.  I personally find Punnett boring: I just don't listen to his shows, and his guests don't draw in the listeners.  Nonetheless, Premier has to be able to find someone better than Noory.  Again, any ideas on how the listeners can facilitate a change, absent mass exodus from the program?

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 05:04:55 PM »
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i think it's likely a waste of keyboard strokes to send off any missives to these two.  they probably receive them all day, everyday, and are powerless and/or unwilling to do anything about it.  besides, what could they do even if they were willing?  they're technically lower on the totem pole than noory himself, and to interfere with his paycheck would only risk interference with their own.  all you can REALLY do is stop subscribing to streamlink and stop listening to the show when snoors is hosting.  then, in the RARE case you are surveyed for your listening habits, don't list the nights when snoors was hosting, or don't even list the show at all.  tell them you were listening to RadioTrainWreck.com.
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 03:13:51 AM »
I agree: e-mailing a producer or webmaster at C2C is pointless.  I tried looking for an appropriate contact at their corporate parent but wasn't able to find one (if anyone has any good ideas . . . ).  Absent that, it appears the sole recourse is stop listening and wait for Snoory to be booted, which may come only after it's too late for the show's salvation.

I find it disgruntling that there is a dearth of sane, grounded, well produced shows on the paranormal. In large part, the lunatic fringe and the incompetents have engulfed the field.  I personally enjoyed the Paracast, but with David Biedny's recent 'retirement' the future of that podcast is in the balance.

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2010, 05:49:10 PM »
     From what I saw of the Nightline interview, and with the exception of his defence of the leprechaun guy, Noory came across as some sort of force to be reckoned with, an important guy, big cheese in the deli, fatest pig in the pen.  The more attention he receives from the mainstream media, the more powerful he becomes.
     Here's a excerpt from a recent New Yorker article:

     ...he enjoys entertaining guest on his yacht.  On this particularly warm afternoon Billy Gibbons, La Toya Jackson, and Ron Paul accompany him on a quick jaunt to the Florida Keys.  He sits on a deck chair.  A fly has landed on his forehead.  He swats it away.
     "Yes, I have my detractors.  But they are small, and of no consequence.  I will rule the night until I no longer care to."


     O.K.  I made up the New Yorker thing.  But he's definitely consolidating his position, and he ain't going anywhere.  Our only hope is for someone on the "inside" to make a move.  Perhaps Hogland, or Howel, or even Alex Jones.  I have noticed that Jones has been sucking up to him recently.  Sucking up is always a sign that someone is about to make a move on your position.  Unfortunately,  I can't stand him, so I hope he fails, and being the slob that he is, he most certainly will.

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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2010, 10:21:28 AM »
I vote for Knapp. I'd rather have Noory than Punnett, though. Ultimately I tune in for the guests more than the host, and Punnett doesn't seem interested enough in the paranormal, nor in alternative ancient history, to intrview the kinds of guests that catch my interests the most. Punnett seems like he doesn't take some paranormal topics seriously at all. He's similar to the local news guy who does a little joke about the recent UFO sighting, rather than reporting it like a serious news story.  I also think Punnett isn't libertarian enough for the job. And I say that, not just in the political sense, but in the conversational sense as well. I mean despite Noory's drawbacks as an interviewer, he at least knows never to set himself up as the opposition to his guests' claims.

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2010, 01:28:51 AM »

Another great example: I was listening to the 2004 "ancient mysteries" interview with Graham Phillips, and Phillips was talking about New Kingdom-era ancient Egypt and pre-classical Greece. All of a sudden, our buddy George interrupts Phillips to ask, "Now the Romans were pretty strong back then too, weren't they?"

WTF WTF WTF WTF?!?!?!

Sorry for quoting myself, it's just that I still can't fathom how Noory is so ignorant. It's like the retards who complained, "OMG Cleopatra wasn't a white woman!" after watching HBO's Rome.

What I can't understand is how Noory can be this ignorant when he is the host of a show that regularly deals with ancient history. For fuck's sake, look at a timeline or pull up a Wikipedia page, you don't have to be Victor Davis Hanson to do the show.

It would be like interviewing a guest about Saladin and asking, "The samurai were pretty strong back then too, weren't they?"

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2010, 01:28:23 PM »
Punnett seems like he doesn't take some paranormal topics seriously at all. He's similar to the local news guy who does a little joke about the recent UFO sighting, rather than reporting it like a serious news story.  I also think Punnett isn't libertarian enough for the job. And I say that, not just in the political sense, but in the conversational sense as well. I mean despite Noory's drawbacks as an interviewer, he at least knows never to set himself up as the opposition to his guests' claims.

I agree and disagree. I like the fact that Punnett never gives anyone a pass, in fact, in some cases I almost wish he'd go in further. He always takes his questions to the edge without ever quite "moving in for the kill." I like the paranormal or I wouldn't listen to C2C but I don't think we do ourselves any favors by having a free forum for people to come on and say there are hibernating giants in Kansas without having to present any evidence short of "I heard from an anonymous source who herad from an anonymous source -." When I first heard Dr. Charles Tramont on C2C it was with GN and he came across as a patently credible, conservative, well-informed, sober researcher into reincarnation. The second time he was on - a year later - he came across as a raving nutcase who was even worse than "Dr." Bruce Goldberg. I often think that if GN had been more aggressive in his questioning the first time I wouldn't have been deluded into spending a year thinking the things Tramont said had any bearing on reality.

I also like Ian's "storybook" interview style when he interviews authors.

That said, I swear my head explodes each time he says "mmmkay, now I wanna challenge you on this ..." That specific line is so oft repeated it gets dulling.

I also just don't like Ian's voice. He's really not kidding when he says he has a voice made for print.

Also, when you say he's not libertarian enough in his questioning style, I'd move that to say he's also not libertarian enough in his philosophical style. I don't think a Minnesota fabian can really give a good treatment to conspiracy and parapolitical topics.

Finally, with Ian, sometimes I feel like I'm listening to Radio Comicon. My interest level in XYZ character from some indie comic from 1978 and the thought process that went into creating it is just about nil. It's like George and his ramblings about the Twilight Zone.

My vote is for Knapp hands-down. Knapp is informed, connected, not afraid to challenge guests (except, unfortunately, Bob Lazar), and increases his credibility by displaying investigative interest in topics of the mainstream (e.g. wild horses, Jim Gibbons' sex scandal, OST nuclear transports, etc.). I wish Knapp, though:

1 - didn't do the DJ act with the bumper music ... "taking us into break is a solid gold favorite from the Grass Roots; you won't be able to stop from clapping along to this cover of Edison Lighthouses' Love Grows ..."

2 - did something about his voice ... it's obvious he has a heavy foreign or regional accent he's covering up; the monotone of his voice is a washover of some dialect - whatever his real voice sounds like it's got to be better than that, though

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2010, 01:29:31 PM »
It would be like interviewing a guest about Saladin and asking, "The samurai were pretty strong back then too, weren't they?"

Ha! +1

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Re: hey, I'm new.. and what is really wrong with Noory, my opinion.
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2010, 05:56:15 PM »
Glad I found this site to replace the old GeorgeNoorySucks one.  Whoopee!
 
Above are many excellent answers to your question.   If you listen to Noory long enough, like five minutes, you'll realize that he's a moron.  A few nights ago there was this gem: "Now I'm going to coin a phrase from Forrest Gump..."
 
The really sad thing is all the people who call and tell him that he's the smartest guy on radio. He seems to believe it, which may be why he often answers questions directed at his guest.
 
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2010, 10:05:16 PM »
A few nights ago there was this gem: "Now I'm going to coin a phrase from Forrest Gump..."
holy shite.  that's really nasty.  wow.

glad you're here, cobra.
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