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b_dubb

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2011, 10:33:33 PM »
if lazar were such a threat and this covert operation so powerful that it could erase all traces of lazar's past ... why is he still alive? why do we know his name? because it never happened. IMO


Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2011, 10:59:43 PM »
if lazar were such a threat and this covert operation so powerful that it could erase all traces of lazar's past ... why is he still alive? why do we know his name? because it never happened. IMO
Yes..YES! I would like to add that Lazar and his "credentials" have been highly questionable at best.
Roger, nobody on the face of the Earth has studied the Lazar issue more than Stanton Friedman, whom I have spoken to personally on this matter. I believe Friedman's analysis and that Lazar is a total fraud.
As far as any old codger might be able to see some landscape..if this "S-4" existed, the security around this facility would be world-class. Some old codger dying of cancer wouldn't be able to walk within his old codger eyesight of the place. He would have been apprehended long before he got that close, had there been anything there.

Morgus

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2011, 01:05:28 AM »
Interestingly John Lear backups Bob Lazar's story and personally witnessed the proof of the anti-gravity properties of a sample of element 115 that Bob smuggled out of Area 51/S4 and had at his house for awhile. Later the house was ransacked and of course the sample disappeared.
Art Bell and George Knapp seem convinced the story is true, so thats powerful opinion.

Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2011, 01:59:36 AM »
No offense, but Lear is a little dubious imo. That said, when his home was raided, was this raid the one that was related to things he was selling on his nuclear website?
Lazar is not a complete idiot. He's very intelligent and I recognize that. I am sure that his mind is capable of a great many things. It is because of him that large, metal framed glasses became popular in the 80's. Least I contribute that to Lazar. If anything.
It is impressive that he built a jet-powered car. However, practically anyone that was allegedly working at Los Alamos would be more than capable of hobbying something like that together. Now being a UFO mechanic, that is something entirely different altogether.
In all honesty, perhaps the man was KGB. Perhaps his mission was to expose the secret base outside of Vegas where all this strange shit is going on and expose it? Doubtful, but just as a viable theory as Lazar being a ufo mechanic.
I would like to also add that Glen Campbell has a nice analysis of Lazar as well.

http://www.ufomind.com/area51/people/lazar/



INLarry

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2011, 04:34:20 AM »
I'm still out on whether Mr. Lazar's story has any credibility or not.  But, it's not so hard as all those seem to think to "erase" someone's identity.  You wouldn't NEED to track down professor's, schools, classmate's and see if they remembered Bob Lazar, if you changed his name TO Bob Lazar.  The government has renamed and relocated hundreds or thousands of individuals into witness protection, and I'm willing to assume if you approached Sally Smith who went to school with John Jones and asked her if she remembered a classmate named Bill Williams (as Mr. Jones is now known) the answer would be no.  And, if he's a bit of a recluse, as he seems to be, I'm willing to bet he didn't get out much or hang around with a lot of people who'd be able to look at a photo of a man 20 years older and say oh, ya, Billy Williams I remember him.  Hell I barely recognize the 3 people I keep in contact with from college when I see the on the street.

M Knight

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2011, 06:35:14 AM »
i believe the universe was dictated but not signed - christopher morley


Perhaps the universe was signed, but not dictated.

b_dubb

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2011, 03:06:59 PM »
saying that Lear is a little dubious is like saying Henry Ford knew his way around a car. 

GSD

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 12:31:10 AM »
I think most people are TOO sure about Bob Lazar because of Stanton Friedman. While I think Bob has perpetuated a con from all of this, I also believe there is some truth to his story.

From my observations, Bob cannot stare into a camera very long without looking up or looking to the left. I have read a book on interrogation and the book states that when people look to the left when they are talking, they are likely lying unless their is plausible reasoning to be doing so. I have also observed him saying things and touching his face after a possible canard.

Bob also says the same thing from interview to interview, and throughout the years, he doesn't change his story. For instance, from interviews in the early 90's, Bob talks about entering the Alien space craft for the first time, he refers to the experience as "Ominous" and that might sound "Corny". Fast forward to the 2000's, he says the same thing but says that it might sound "Silly". The point I'm trying to make is that Bob studies his videos and is a complete narcissist, it doesn't take a psych major to see it.

One thing cannot be disputed, if you study how he speaks, he's HIGHLY and I mean HIGHLY intelligent. His speech is fluid without hesitation and excessive fillers (he will say ummm, etc, but nothing excessive). His command of language, placement of words, and grasp of theoretical concepts are razor sharp. This leads me to my next point. If he's such a phony as Stanton Friedman claims him to be, how come he won't challenge him intellectually in a public forum? TMK, this hasn't been proposed. Friedman NEVER brings up the fact that he's called him out to talk about his story directly. If this ever did occur, why would Lazar turn such an opportunity down? He's already been deemed a phony by so many, he would have little to lose.

Friedman has recognized he's quite smart, but is to egotistical himself to say anything beyond that he is "Clever". Lazar is BRILLIANT and I believe he might make Stanton Friedman look like a moron in a public forum.

It's interesting to me that his story break coincided with the birth of his company (supposedly opened for 3 years in 1989). Furthermore, anyone who holds even a TS clearance knows the dangers of telling. Your clearance is revoked and likely for life. He's claiming a "Majestic" clearance and yet he's telling people about the things he's doing at S-4? Everyone knows the money is good for those holding high clearances, even for idiotic engineers, why would he give that up being a undisputed Genius? He could use such a high clearance to 10-99 himself anywhere he wanted and make a fortune!

So while I think some of what he says is BS, I also think he might just be telling the truth.

I'm really on the fence with Lazar despite Stanton Freud saying otherwise.

GSD

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2011, 12:43:11 AM »
PS,


So while I think some of what he says is BS, I also think he might just be telling the truth. I think he has EMBELLISHED some things, but it's highly plausible that someone with a security clearance supposedly 38x higher than a TS (this is a BS statement if I ever heard one because the USG doesn't measure clearances like this) would have his records nixed for discredit.

Where I believe Lazar is a con is that if he even spent a small amount of time reverse engineering Alien tech, he would have someway made money from it. The USG couldn't call proprietary on theory so easily. Further, in accordance with his story for bringing this reality to the masses, why hasn't he documented this stuff for the masses? Honestly, there are even plausible explanations for these questions.

So while I "Gut" feel he is a con to some extent, despite what Stanton Freud says, Lazar CANNOT be definitively discredited. Stanton believes his prodigious cranium size makes him more intelligent than anyone else on the planet.

I can say this, I wouldn't doubt it if Lazar is a Government stooge either.

GSD

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2011, 02:30:32 AM »
Anyone know if Snoory has interviewed Lazar?

Morgus

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2011, 02:44:55 AM »
Anyone know if Snoory has interviewed Lazar?
No, only Art Bell and George Knapp have access to him apparently.
Noory has interviewed Lazar's friend John Lear before however.

GSD

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2011, 02:52:31 AM »
No, only Art Bell and George Knapp have access to him apparently.
Noory has interviewed Lazar's friend John Lear before however.

Very revealing, this means that Lazar thinks George is a complete idiot, like all of us! He can't be that bad after all!!

Snoory is so stone stupid, he couldn't have the most rudimentary discussion with Lazar around physics, it would be hilarious to hear him interview him. "Wow", "So what comes up must come down?", "ARE YOU SURE OF THAT BOB?", "Bob, do you believe in Alien life?"

The latter is a perfect example of the doofus Noory is, here the guy is telling us for the last 22 years of his knowledge of Alien craft and I KNOW GEORGE WOULD ASK THIS, HAHAHA.

I want to hear Lazar tell Noory about his new project that proves that George actually has a left hemisphere to his brain.

stevesh

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2011, 05:33:47 AM »
saying that Lear is a little dubious is like saying Henry Ford knew his way around a car.

John Lear is the guy who believes that all currently-unassigned human souls are stored in a box on the moon. 'Nuff said.

GSD

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2011, 01:54:06 AM »
John Lear is the guy who believes that all currently-unassigned human souls are stored in a box on the moon. 'Nuff said.

Wow, didn't know this nugget.

Michael Vandeven

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Re: Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2011, 03:20:45 AM »
John Lear is the guy who believes that all currently-unassigned human souls are stored in a box on the moon. 'Nuff said.
Amen.

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b_dubb

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2012, 09:08:18 PM »
after two minutes of searching i have bob lazar's physical address and the name of his wife/business partner.  if he's such a brainiac why not register the domain as private? looks like united nuclear is run out of a big industrial type building towards the back of bobby's property after putting the business addy into google maps

Vulhala

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Bob Lazar
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2012, 07:47:35 AM »
Way to stay under the radar :D

someguy

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2012, 10:12:57 PM »
John Lear is the guy who believes that all currently-unassigned human souls are stored in a box on the moon. 'Nuff said.


Haha! I was going to say this, you beat me to it. The guy also says that the aliens can't suck someone's soul if they drown, because the soul sucker machine wont work through water. That's why sailors who drown are called lost souls. Obviously.

ManiacMatt

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2012, 12:58:25 PM »
John Lear claims that Bob Lazar is back with the government because he's so damn smart they need him.



b_dubb

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2012, 06:38:36 PM »
Lazar could babble on and on about schmysics but when anyone tried to get real answers from him about the HOW he would stammer and talk around any real details. I'm convinches that Lazar is a pretty intelligent bullshit artist and that's about it

gfanikf

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2012, 08:03:50 PM »
Random first post, but here goes, if the government spends all the money, time, and effort to blank out someones educational record and basic facts instead of just murdering them...than I am very upset at the wasteful use of my tax dollars.

b_dubb

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Re: Bob Lazar
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2012, 09:15:01 PM »
Random first post, but here goes, if the government spends all the money, time, and effort to blank out someones educational record and basic facts instead of just murdering them...than I am very upset at the wasteful use of my tax dollars.
an excellent first post.  it would make a lot more sense to just shoot a pain in the ass like lazar.  clearly the gubmnt just couldn't care less